AceD 2 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 3/12/2023 at 10:45 PM, WhiteMud said: The beta that is available on the download page is working with Wayland!! It's a very nice update overall too, not just the Wayland add on Was wondering if you needed to do anything special to get it working ? As mentionned in my previous post, it works but mouse is on the screen but not moving, yet i see stuff being highlighted as if i had an extra invisible pointer. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteMud 6 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 (edited) misquote - is there no way to delete the comment? Edited April 6 by WhiteMud totally wrong quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteMud 6 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 15 hours ago, AceD said: Was wondering if you needed to do anything special to get it working ? As mentionned in my previous post, it works but mouse is on the screen but not moving, yet i see stuff being highlighted as if i had an extra invisible pointer. Thanks I didn't experience this at all, can you provide more information? Link to post Share on other sites
AceD 2 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/6/2023 at 6:21 PM, WhiteMud said: I didn't experience this at all, can you provide more information? I will try to make a video of the issue, kind of hard to explain honestly. I just cant wait to stop using x11... feels like i'm living in the past XD 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Maku 0 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Apparently there's a library called 'libei' for "Emulated Input, primarily aimed at the Wayland stack", and that uses Synergy as an example use case: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libinput/libei/-/blob/main/README.md --- The library appears to be in active development as as per this tweet Bolton is aware of it. So this might be happening some time this year or the next. Not that I care too much -- I ended up putting enough money aside over the years to buy enough screens I no longer need Synergy lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Xygnal 2 Posted June 7 Popular Post Share Posted June 7 Yes, as soon as someone else writes the code for them, Symless will use it. 🤨 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AceD 2 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Any updates on this? is it fixed in the new synergy 3 version that came out? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
TrentC 4 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 6 hours ago, AceD said: Any updates on this? is it fixed in the new synergy 3 version that came out? Thanks Version 3 has not "come out." It is in Alpha release now. Link to post Share on other sites
AceD 2 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Yup so i just tried wayland again with the latest version and its still the same fuckary. Since explaning what is happening is kind of hard and i have no idea what wording to use in googe to find a potential solution. Here is a youtube link demoeing the issue Server is running off a windows 10 PC I have 2 linux computers, one is running kubuntu with wayland, the other running kali linux. As you can see theres an invisible pointer thats going over the synergy settings, thats me moving my mouse... yet the damn pointer aint following. Like i managed to catch 8 seconds of it... aint easy finding and invisible mouse on screen. Anyhow, anybody that could either help me word what i should be searching for in google for a solution or provide a fix would be amazing. All 3 pc's running latest version of synergy, nothing in the synergy logs seem to indicate an issue. I am under the impression im the only one experiencing this and not joining on the wayland fun yet. Thanks to anyone who helps out. Link to post Share on other sites
UnixOutlaw 2 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I've pretty much given up on this "feature" (promised since 2014) - I now run Pop!_OS 22 - and it defaults to X11 instead of Wayland... Link to post Share on other sites
notta 2 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 I think their indication, even right smack dab on the front page that they support Linux is misleading. What if I didn't know it doesn't work on Wayland and I purchased it? They really should make that clear to the users before purchasing. Kind of sus to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Synergy Team Nick Bolton 407 Posted August 22 Synergy Team Share Posted August 22 I appreciate that many of you are angry about the lack of Wayland support. Wayland is an interesting beast. It’s designed around a security philosophy that excludes software like Synergy by design. So, they need to make special exceptions to allow software like Synergy to work. We tired implementing Wayland support for Synergy many times, and it has cost us a lot of development time. Each time the Wayland developers changed the interface, and each time we faced different security related challenges which seemed to be impassable. However, there is hope! A new Wayland library has been developed which mentions Synergy quite a lot, hinting that this is the special exception we’ve been waiting for… it’s called libei. Wayland is very important to us, and we will add support as soon as it is possible. Thanks for your patience. For now, please switch back to using X11. It is easy to do this in most Linux distros, e.g. Ubuntu If you are unable to use X11 for some reason, and you have purchased within the last 30 days, please contact us for a refund. Link to post Share on other sites
ccoenen 2 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, Nick Bolton said: We tired implementing Wayland support for Synergy many times, and it has cost us a lot of development time. Can you point to one of these attempts? I am following this topic since at least 2016 and I have never once seen that any such attempt has been made. Much less "many"? Link to post Share on other sites
TrentC 4 Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, Nick Bolton said: I appreciate that many of you are angry about the lack of Wayland support. Perhaps if you had communicated such problems before hand instead of silence, there would be less angry people. Maybe some posting of updates on progress, or failures on a regular basis would help with that. Monthly? Quarterly? Biannual? Even to even say , "nothing to report." Link to post Share on other sites
jaimeCabra 0 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Lack of wayland support is not ideal, regardless of wayland explicitly stopping this sort of thing. wayland fractional scaling is the thing I miss the most. but I have an imac, a windows laptop and a linux laptop in front of me and the switch between them is pretty seemless. Link to post Share on other sites
dabe 0 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 On 8/22/2023 at 10:14 AM, Nick Bolton said: I appreciate that many of you are angry about the lack of Wayland support. Wayland is an interesting beast. It’s designed around a security philosophy that excludes software like Synergy by design. So, they need to make special exceptions to allow software like Synergy to work. We tired implementing Wayland support for Synergy many times, and it has cost us a lot of development time. Each time the Wayland developers changed the interface, and each time we faced different security related challenges which seemed to be impassable. However, there is hope! A new Wayland library has been developed which mentions Synergy quite a lot, hinting that this is the special exception we’ve been waiting for… it’s called libei. Wayland is very important to us, and we will add support as soon as it is possible. Thanks for your patience. For now, please switch back to using X11. It is easy to do this in most Linux distros, e.g. Ubuntu If you are unable to use X11 for some reason, and you have purchased within the last 30 days, please contact us for a refund. Honestly feels like a logical and rational response. Open source can move fast and be fickle. I just purchased Synergy after using Barrier for years now; it's become an essential part of my workflow and I've learned that when I rely on a piece of tech, it's almost always worth paying for it. Instantly, Synergy has improved my virtual KVM experience. I am hopeful that with semi up-to-date responses like these and on the GitHub issue on the matter, we may truly see Wayland support in Synergy someday. Hopefully before Fedora 40 drops X11 support! Link to post Share on other sites
Rubin Starset 4 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 (edited) Any workarounds for the missing mouse cursor on Wayland as a client? Though for me I can still see a stuck cursor. Thanks. Edited September 27 by Rubin Starset Link to post Share on other sites
Maku 0 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 4 hours ago, Rubin Starset said: Any workarounds for the missing mouse cursor on Wayland as a client? Though for me I can still see a stuck cursor. Thanks. I learned today there exists KVMs with mouse roaming, i.e. it will switch the input of mouse when you move cursor to edge of screen. https://www.store.level1techs.com/products/p/4-port-km-switch-with-usb-32-gen-1-mouse-roaming-function Link to post Share on other sites
Stuck in the Matrix 0 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Communication is key. I know because I've screwed up in the past because I didn't communicate enough with my customers. People can be really forgiving when you are upfront and honest with them. That said, I'd recommend you create a Hack-a-Thon or open bounty for anyone that can get even partial Wayland support working. If the mouse arrow was visible, that would probably solve a lot of use-case issues. I would post a challenge with a reward for whatever you feel is appropriate. "$5,000 for any user who can write some code along with technical documentation that solves some of our Wayland issues." Maybe create a scope document and break down the reward based on the feature list bullet points ($2,500 to get that damn mouse icon to be visible etc.) Just a suggestion. I know how aggravating software development can be! Link to post Share on other sites
ccoenen 2 Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 Fedora 39 has everything in place to run input-leap now. How do I know? Because I just tried! (also because I read about it here: Gnome Blog about Fedora 39. Look for the headline "input leap".) What does this mean? It means if you're on Fedora, you can now install input leap from packages, and ignore the compatibility warning that still pops up. Link to post Share on other sites
Rubin Starset 4 Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 @Nick Bolton Any updates from the Symless team? libei hit 1.1.0 about 2 months ago. KDE is about to roll into Wayland territory by default. At this point I'm happy to give Symless another $50 to get Wayland support, if it means I don't have to waste a day fumbling around getting input-leap built and blunt forcing it into my Debian setup. Link to post Share on other sites
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